Comments on: Dawson’s Creek finale (spoilers) http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/ The random non-photographic musings of Augie De Blieck Jr. Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:03:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Shelby Ralston http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-3494 Shelby Ralston Sun, 16 May 2004 02:00:29 +0000 /?p=461#comment-3494 Okay, I never got to see the finale and i hope to see it on tv in 2004 ! DSo u know when it will bwe on tv again? Anyhow I love that Joey and Pacey got together. Being the fact that Joey and Dawson have been friends thier whole life And everytime they get together it usually screws up! I wish that Joey and Pacey would have got married in the finale!! They are cute together and they're my favorite caracters . Okay if you cantell me a little summary of the finale or tell me when it will be on tv in2004 email asap our as many times as u would like ! Bye!! Shelby Okay, I never got to see the finale and i hope to see it on tv in 2004 ! DSo u know when it will bwe on tv again? Anyhow I love that Joey and Pacey got together. Being the fact that Joey and Dawson have been friends thier whole life And everytime they get together it usually screws up! I wish that Joey and Pacey would have got married in the finale!! They are cute together and they’re my favorite caracters . Okay if you cantell me a little summary of the finale or tell me when it will be on tv in2004 email asap our as many times as u would like ! Bye!! Shelby

]]> By: John http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-1034 John Mon, 19 May 2003 19:00:38 +0000 /?p=461#comment-1034 "Those who simply dismiss it with a sneer because "the characters don't talk like teenagers" miss the point completely."<br /> <br /> I've never seen an episode, but I always understood the dialogue to be a deliberate stylistic choice - that is, Williamson wasn't trying to suggest that teenagers are that erudite, but very cleverly used the medium to let them be, thereby allowing them to really describe their emotional states.<br /> <br /> But, like I said, I've never seen it. “Those who simply dismiss it with a sneer because “the characters don’t talk like teenagers” miss the point completely.”

I’ve never seen an episode, but I always understood the dialogue to be a deliberate stylistic choice – that is, Williamson wasn’t trying to suggest that teenagers are that erudite, but very cleverly used the medium to let them be, thereby allowing them to really describe their emotional states.

But, like I said, I’ve never seen it.

]]> By: Augie De Blieck Jr. http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-1032 Augie De Blieck Jr. Mon, 19 May 2003 15:01:47 +0000 /?p=461#comment-1032 That's the same way they handled BUFFY. They both started at the same time with 13 episode commitments. Both Williamson and Joss Whedon were smart enough to structure their shows in such a way that if they were never renewed, they still told one larger story.<br /> <br /> Of course, they both turned out to be fairly popular for the demographic, and here we are today. Both shows ending more-or-less together.<br /> <br /> -Augie That’s the same way they handled BUFFY. They both started at the same time with 13 episode commitments. Both Williamson and Joss Whedon were smart enough to structure their shows in such a way that if they were never renewed, they still told one larger story.

Of course, they both turned out to be fairly popular for the demographic, and here we are today. Both shows ending more-or-less together.

-Augie

]]> By: BronteJD http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-1031 BronteJD Mon, 19 May 2003 13:49:49 +0000 /?p=461#comment-1031 That's actually an excellent suggestion. :) The series could have ended after just one season, and we could have gotten a complete, satisfying story arc that wrapped everything up. :) <br /> <br /> And the cost savings is definitely a valid point as well. That’s actually an excellent suggestion. :) The series could have ended after just one season, and we could have gotten a complete, satisfying story arc that wrapped everything up. :)

And the cost savings is definitely a valid point as well.

]]> By: Augie De Blieck Jr. http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-1030 Augie De Blieck Jr. Mon, 19 May 2003 13:16:01 +0000 /?p=461#comment-1030 Hey Patricia,<br /> <br /> The answer to this is all so very simple: Buy the first season boxed set only. You get one complete story, and Joey and Dawson are together at the end.<br /> <br /> End of story.<br /> <br /> I think it's what I might just be doing. There were some great bits in the next two or three seasons (I loved the A.I. Brooks storyline), but I think the first season is enough to remember the series by. Plus, it'll save me a couple hundred bucks this way. =)<br /> <br /> I have to go visit your LJ page now, too, to see your full writeup. I did a really good job about shielding myself from spoilers last week until I saw the ep on Saturday. Now I can go looking for what everyone else thought.<br /> <br /> -Augie Hey Patricia,

The answer to this is all so very simple: Buy the first season boxed set only. You get one complete story, and Joey and Dawson are together at the end.

End of story.

I think it’s what I might just be doing. There were some great bits in the next two or three seasons (I loved the A.I. Brooks storyline), but I think the first season is enough to remember the series by. Plus, it’ll save me a couple hundred bucks this way. =)

I have to go visit your LJ page now, too, to see your full writeup. I did a really good job about shielding myself from spoilers last week until I saw the ep on Saturday. Now I can go looking for what everyone else thought.

-Augie

]]> By: BronteJD http://www.variousandsundry.com/2003/05/18/dawsons-creek-finale-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-1029 BronteJD Mon, 19 May 2003 04:17:41 +0000 /?p=461#comment-1029 Augie, you summed up almost all of my feelings very well. The things I liked (Andie), the things I didn't (Eve). I also agree that the last 4 episodes worked in ways the last couple of seasons hadn't, and I was enjoying like I hadn't until they went to college. <br /> <br /> Agreed, Jen's death was dragged on a bit too long, but there was a degree of sincerety with all the "life messages" they were trying tto get across with it. <br /> <br /> But, like you, I felt extremely cheated by the ending. In a way, I feel like Joey didn't have to make a real choice - she got them both - her "soulmate", and her lover. She never had to make a decision! <br /> <br /> I didn't agree with the decision to put her with Pacey AT ALL, as I'm sure you know. And I actually won't be buying the DVD sets as a result. I felt like everything that I had watched Dawson & Joey go through for the last 5/6 years was all for nothing - in my mind, they were supposed to be a part for a little while, so they could finally be together as relatively mature adults. Obviously, that didn't happen. As I ranted over on my LJ page, I don't understand how Joey could "always" know she was supposed to be with Pacey. He was the second guy! He came AFTER Dawson! How can the after guy be the always guy??? <br /> <br /> But that's one of the many strengths of the show - making us care so much about these characters who don't always behave the ways we wished they should. Like you, I'll be nostalgic for the show, but I won't ever me able to speak of the ending as satisfying. <br /> <br /> Augie, you summed up almost all of my feelings very well. The things I liked (Andie), the things I didn’t (Eve). I also agree that the last 4 episodes worked in ways the last couple of seasons hadn’t, and I was enjoying like I hadn’t until they went to college.

Agreed, Jen’s death was dragged on a bit too long, but there was a degree of sincerety with all the “life messages” they were trying tto get across with it.

But, like you, I felt extremely cheated by the ending. In a way, I feel like Joey didn’t have to make a real choice – she got them both – her “soulmate”, and her lover. She never had to make a decision!

I didn’t agree with the decision to put her with Pacey AT ALL, as I’m sure you know. And I actually won’t be buying the DVD sets as a result. I felt like everything that I had watched Dawson & Joey go through for the last 5/6 years was all for nothing – in my mind, they were supposed to be a part for a little while, so they could finally be together as relatively mature adults. Obviously, that didn’t happen. As I ranted over on my LJ page, I don’t understand how Joey could “always” know she was supposed to be with Pacey. He was the second guy! He came AFTER Dawson! How can the after guy be the always guy???

But that’s one of the many strengths of the show – making us care so much about these characters who don’t always behave the ways we wished they should. Like you, I’ll be nostalgic for the show, but I won’t ever me able to speak of the ending as satisfying.

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