Comments on: ‘Mythbusters’ takes on blogging debate http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/ Wii, iPod, DVD, TV, and So Much More Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:44:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Various and Sundry: DVDs, Tech, HDTV, and More » Blog Archive » Mythbusters — TONIGHT! http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-148801 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:13:29 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-148801 [...] Here, let me quote me for a second, from last November: I think I have it. The plane WILL take off. The power of the plane’s movement come not from how fast the wheels are going. That’s what a car does. A plane catches air from the propulsion in its wings — prop place or jet place. The fact that the wheels are negated in the distance they travel doesn’t matter one bit. The whole plane is moving above it. [...] […] Here, let me quote me for a second, from last November: I think I have it. The plane WILL take off. The power of the plane’s movement come not from how fast the wheels are going. That’s what a car does. A plane catches air from the propulsion in its wings — prop place or jet place. The fact that the wheels are negated in the distance they travel doesn’t matter one bit. The whole plane is moving above it. […]

]]> by: Various and Sundry: DVDs, Tech, HDTV, and More » Blog Archive » Mythbusters Update http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-141565 Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:06:39 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-141565 [...] Bad news — tonight’s episode was dedicated to airplane myths, but none of them had anything to do with a plane on a conveyor belt. [...] […] Bad news — tonight’s episode was dedicated to airplane myths, but none of them had anything to do with a plane on a conveyor belt. […]

]]> by: Scott Beeler http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136419 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:03:40 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136419 I don't think the prop or jet would have anything to do with it -- they move the plane predominantly *forward*, not *up*. If there was sufficient *up* force generated by the prop or jet alone then planes could take off directly from a standing start without a run-up. I still think what's needed for takeoff is the airflow past the wings generating lift, and that's not going to be there if the plane is stationary with respect to the air (and the Earth, and everything except the treadmill). It'll be an interesting episode to watch, anyway. I don’t think the prop or jet would have anything to do with it — they move the plane predominantly *forward*, not *up*. If there was sufficient *up* force generated by the prop or jet alone then planes could take off directly from a standing start without a run-up.

I still think what’s needed for takeoff is the airflow past the wings generating lift, and that’s not going to be there if the plane is stationary with respect to the air (and the Earth, and everything except the treadmill).

It’ll be an interesting episode to watch, anyway.

]]> by: Augie De Blieck Jr. http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136355 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:44:11 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136355 I think I have it. The plane WILL take off. The power of the plane's movement come not from how fast the wheels are going. That's what a car does. A plane catches air from the propulsion in its wings -- prop place or jet place. The fact that the wheels are negated in the distance they travel doesn't matter one bit. The whole plane is moving above it. Hmm, that sounded good when I started writing it, then sounded stupid by the time I finished. Nevermind. I think I have it. The plane WILL take off. The power of the plane’s movement come not from how fast the wheels are going. That’s what a car does. A plane catches air from the propulsion in its wings — prop place or jet place. The fact that the wheels are negated in the distance they travel doesn’t matter one bit. The whole plane is moving above it.

Hmm, that sounded good when I started writing it, then sounded stupid by the time I finished.

Nevermind.

]]> by: Scott Beeler http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136350 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:07:24 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136350 I would think the obvious answer would be that it could not take off: if the belt speed and plane speed are exactly opposite, then the plane will be going nowhere with respect to the air, and it's the airspeed past the wing which gives the plane lift. The moving belt isn't going to move the air, it just moves the particular part of the "ground" the plane is on. What's throwing me is the quote that the whole flight club got it wrong, and I find it hard to imagine that they would not think of what I thought of. So maybe there's some trick to it that my brain is missing. I would think the obvious answer would be that it could not take off: if the belt speed and plane speed are exactly opposite, then the plane will be going nowhere with respect to the air, and it’s the airspeed past the wing which gives the plane lift. The moving belt isn’t going to move the air, it just moves the particular part of the “ground” the plane is on.

What’s throwing me is the quote that the whole flight club got it wrong, and I find it hard to imagine that they would not think of what I thought of. So maybe there’s some trick to it that my brain is missing.

]]> by: Josh Herndon http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136316 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:55:41 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2007/11/02/mythbusters-takes-on-blogging-debate/#comment-136316 Wow, this sounds like a fantastic episode. I am definitely intrigued as to what will happen now. Wow, this sounds like a fantastic episode. I am definitely intrigued as to what will happen now.

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