Comments on: Poor Conan http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/ The random mostly photographic musings of Augie De Blieck Jr. Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:46:14 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rob Postuma http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/comment-page-1/#comment-194087 Rob Postuma Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:41:50 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/#comment-194087 An incredibly smart move for NBC due to: 1) them having money problems so bad they had to layoff 500 and ask some of their stars to take pay cuts PLUS losing most of their 10pm shows to either poor ratings or shows closing up their doors ( a la ER ) 2) 5 hours of Leno costs a FRACTION of 5 hours of primetime shows 3) Leno brings in viewers - and they were mighty scared they'd lose him to an opposing network - they get to keep a sure thing 4) babyboomers who are Leno's core audience- are getting too old to keep up past 11:30, will more likely tune into Leno at 10pm 5) no one knows how well Conan will do at 11:30 - chances are it won't be as well as Leno did That all being said - Conan got screwed. All that really happened was that he inherited the TONIGHT SHOW title and timeslot, but not really the show. Leno continues to do his pablum-fed version of the Tonight SHow to delighted audiences at 10pm, increasing the level of mediocrity in the 10pm hour. Amongst it's competitors - FOX already doesn't have 10pm programming and CBS and ABC are likely to counter-program by airing newsmagazine and reality shows in the same slot. More than likely, LENO at 10 - will have increased ratings due to nothing more than being filler material for channel flippers. If it does well at 10pm - be sure that Letterman and Kimmel will be joining him in that slot real soon. NBC kept their deal with Conan - they just didn't keep to the spirit of the deal, which was being tossed the mantle by Leno. An incredibly smart move for NBC due to:
1) them having money problems so bad they had to layoff 500 and ask some of their stars to take pay cuts PLUS losing most of their 10pm shows to either poor ratings or shows closing up their doors ( a la ER )
2) 5 hours of Leno costs a FRACTION of 5 hours of primetime shows
3) Leno brings in viewers – and they were mighty scared they’d lose him to an opposing network – they get to keep a sure thing
4) babyboomers who are Leno’s core audience- are getting too old to keep up past 11:30, will more likely tune into Leno at 10pm
5) no one knows how well Conan will do at 11:30 – chances are it won’t be as well as Leno did

That all being said – Conan got screwed. All that really happened was that he inherited the TONIGHT SHOW title and timeslot, but not really the show. Leno continues to do his pablum-fed version of the Tonight SHow to delighted audiences at 10pm, increasing the level of mediocrity in the 10pm hour. Amongst it’s competitors – FOX already doesn’t have 10pm programming and CBS and ABC are likely to counter-program by airing newsmagazine and reality shows in the same slot. More than likely, LENO at 10 – will have increased ratings due to nothing more than being filler material for channel flippers. If it does well at 10pm – be sure that Letterman and Kimmel will be joining him in that slot real soon.

NBC kept their deal with Conan – they just didn’t keep to the spirit of the deal, which was being tossed the mantle by Leno.

]]> By: Bart Smith http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/comment-page-1/#comment-194073 Bart Smith Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:28:42 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/#comment-194073 As much as I don't care for Jay Leno, it's an incredibly smart move for NBC, particularly in the short run. Yes, it's probably not great for Conan, but it beats the alternative, which would have been going head-to-head with Leno's new show on ABC or FOX. And Conan finishing in third place in the time slot would not be good for him or NBC. As much as I don’t care for Jay Leno, it’s an incredibly smart move for NBC, particularly in the short run.

Yes, it’s probably not great for Conan, but it beats the alternative, which would have been going head-to-head with Leno’s new show on ABC or FOX. And Conan finishing in third place in the time slot would not be good for him or NBC.

]]> By: Cory http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/comment-page-1/#comment-193944 Cory Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:48:07 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/#comment-193944 Augie, I'm curious on your thoughts of the comments Jeff Zucker layed out there during this mess. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i686368ba4cd6a88c1ba37d99bf187003?imw=Y "Can we continue to broadcast 22 hours in primetime? Three of our competitors don't," Zucker told the annual UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in Manhattan. "Can we continue to broadcast seven days a week? One of our competitors doesn't." The statements may be true, Jeff (and I feel like I'm channeling a little Frank Miller here) but you are the Goddamn Nation Broadcasting Network. The network that in the past SET THE TRENDS, not followed them. Someone at GE needs to wake up and get the current powers that be out of there before the network of my youth ends up gone. And at this rate, it may be sooner than later. Cory Augie,

I’m curious on your thoughts of the comments Jeff Zucker layed out there during this mess.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i686368ba4cd6a88c1ba37d99bf187003?imw=Y

“Can we continue to broadcast 22 hours in primetime? Three of our competitors don’t,” Zucker told the annual UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in Manhattan. “Can we continue to broadcast seven days a week? One of our competitors doesn’t.”

The statements may be true, Jeff (and I feel like I’m channeling a little Frank Miller here) but you are the Goddamn Nation Broadcasting Network. The network that in the past SET THE TRENDS, not followed them. Someone at GE needs to wake up and get the current powers that be out of there before the network of my youth ends up gone. And at this rate, it may be sooner than later.

Cory

]]> By: Augie De Blieck Jr. http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/comment-page-1/#comment-193881 Augie De Blieck Jr. Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:19:45 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/#comment-193881 Yeah, that's probably the best counter-argument. And it'll probably happen. Yeah, that’s probably the best counter-argument. And it’ll probably happen.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/comment-page-1/#comment-193835 Andrew Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:36:19 +0000 http://www.variousandsundry.com/2008/12/10/poor-conan/#comment-193835 Right up until the point where NBC cancels Jay after ratings are crap for 4 months. Right up until the point where NBC cancels Jay after ratings are crap for 4 months.

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